Forum Topic: Creativestem Forum - General Musings

Connect with creatives.

Forums / Off-Topic / General Musings

Bad Logos

Last post 14 Jan 2008 by

meredith

Page 1 of 1

aesop

The Bane of my design career is when clients come to me asking for work, and giving me their crappy new logo to work with.

The bane!!!

It makes it so hard to work with. Do you guys get this too?
----
Luke E. Blackman | lukeblackman.com

Reply 11 Jan 2008

wickedmartin

Hahah, story of my life..

Well, the upside is that you have to be even more creative to solve a given problem then; and I'm always up for challanges. : )
----
"Through the rise and fall of worlds one greater mind previals,
conjuring new creations as it watches the old ones fail."

Quote 11 Jan 2008

meredith

yes! this was my issue all last year with my employer. then he wanted to make changes to it. it was hell. i tried to be creative with it but... there is only so much you can do with something that should just be completely trashed and started all over again.

Quote 11 Jan 2008

andyhixon

To be completely honest the logo has to be sooooo bad for me to notice as I am pretty terrible at typeography, anybody got any advice on some books I can buy ,or just general avice to help me with this
andyxx

Quote 11 Jan 2008

cogwurx

andyhixon said:

To be completely honest the logo has to be sooooo bad for me to notice as I am pretty terrible at typeography, anybody got any advice on some books I can buy ,or just general avice to help me with this
andyxx

check these out: http://www.amazon.com/Letterhead-Logo-Design/dp/1592531822/ref=pd_sim_b_2/103-1520684-6695853
http://www.amazon.com/Designing-Brand-Identity-Complete-Maintaining/dp/0471746843/ref=si3_rdr_bb_product/103-5376472-6677467

These are some good resources.

For some online stuff this guy is a good resource: http://www.davidairey.com/

However, no book on this planet can help when you are dealing with a craptacular logo. The icing on the cake is when they send a logo for print at 72dpi.

Quote 11 Jan 2008

james

Seriously, my only idea for this (and I've got through this too many times)would be to kindly suggest playing with your logo. As a matter of fact, don't even ask. Do it. Play with it so it has the same idea but is a bit "better". Show it to them and suggest it, and if they've got any wits about them they'll trust a designer.

If not, just do your best. Like everyone says, it requires a lot more creativity.

Quote 12 Jan 2008

cogwurx

james said:

Seriously, my only idea for this (and I've got through this too many times)would be to kindly suggest playing with your logo. As a matter of fact, don't even ask. Do it. Play with it so it has the same idea but is a bit "better". Show it to them and suggest it, and if they've got any wits about them they'll trust a designer.

If not, just do your best. Like everyone says, it requires a lot more creativity.

Generally, that's not a good idea. The client isn't paying you for a logo redo and they may feel insulted by the gesture. Plus, it would go against their established branding and it's a waste of the designer's time. The best thing to do is get a killer design going and not make their logo to prominent in said design...if possible.

Quote 13 Jan 2008

meredith

cogwurx said:

james said:
Seriously, my only idea for this (and I've got through this too many times)would be to kindly suggest playing with your logo. As a matter of fact, don't even ask. Do it. Play with it so it has the same idea but is a bit "better". Show it to them and suggest it, and if they've got any wits about them they'll trust a designer.

If not, just do your best. Like everyone says, it requires a lot more creativity.

Generally, that's not a good idea. The client isn't paying you for a logo redo and they may feel insulted by the gesture. Plus, it would go against their established branding and it's a waste of the designer's time. The best thing to do is get a killer design going and not make their logo to prominent in said design...if possible.

Always make sure that the design work you are doing is something that you have agreed terms with. Personally & Professionally... I wouldn't work to create before the client and i are both in agreement.

Its discouraging to spend hours/weeks or even a couple of hours on your design/idea.. send in a proof.. and the client refuses it (or worst is insulted by the gesture as mentioned above).

Not only because you will have waisted your time and their time without pay/recognition/commission, but now they have your new idea for Free, and even if it is not the high resolution version, many clients have many (con)artist/designers at their disposal who simply knows how to operate design programs who can easily re-create what you have done & possibly build up on it, as well.

If you do wish to do something like this though, don't hold back just be sure you have communicated and confirmed everything via written agreement. That is always crucial, i think.

Living/Working in the hope that "maybe they will like it" is just not Realistic.

Quote 14 Jan 2008

Have your say

Want to share your thoughts? Sign up

for an account, or log in if you already have one.

If you find any bugs please let us know by posting in the Bug Reports

Browse Gallery InFocus Exhibitions	Featured Artists Browse Artists Currently Online	Home Contact us About us	CS News Forums	Privacy Policy Terms of Service
Copyright © Lucid Creative Ltd 2008 All Artworks & Content used & featured on this website are Copyright © their respective authors. Lucid Network