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Last post 24 May 2008 by

meredith

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jrassik

This is something that's been on my mind for a while, around mid semester when I was sitting in my class.

I'd like to know whether or not you can teach someone to become creative or is it innate with certain individuals?

I'm in a creative arts program and I'm not too sure what I'm doing in it. Am I there to learn how to be creative or just there to find situation in which I can learn to apply my creativity.

Also, is anyone tired of the word "creative" ?
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Reply 22 May 2008

meredith

its natural and unforced.
all of creation is mimicked down to the smallest particle.
so being creative only mimics what you are, creation.

the idea is while mimicking creation bringing new things to existence.

being creative is a healthy way to learn about who you are, control your thoughts and channel your concepts to a completed "creation" and along the way you learn a little more about what your purpose is.

its easy to get tired of anything that is over used. if you dont wish to find a synonym... its best to focus on metaphorical uses of the word creative for potential concepts and everything you can pull out of it as opposed to the word itself.

Quote 22 May 2008

jrassik

well if all creative is all mimetic, that there's is only one original source of ideas? It had to start somewhere right? - and that every idea it just branching off of one original source?
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Quote 23 May 2008

meredith

i didn't create the original rules (as far as i know) ... i would save that question for your personal creator. lol. Seems you have questions not just with creation but existence in general.

Quote 23 May 2008

devian

Just going to chime in real quick. There is no "original" idea when it comes to creation. The originality of it comes from your personal interpretation of what you are trying to portray, as everyones perception is different.

A key factor in why the most successful surround themselves with people who have different perspectives then themselves. What you may see, someone will see different and it helps with the creative process. Which is much of what this community is built around. Inspire, create and improve.
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I don't control my emotions. I just make them digital.

Quote 23 May 2008

mydeadpony

meredith said:

all of creation is mimicked down to the smallest particle.

Not to be an ass Meredith (:P), but it's quite unclear what you're trying to say although I think that you mean that the whole universe is contained within the smallest particle.

Ok let's assume it's true, how do you access it then ?
What's your way of getting knowledge of such things ?

I can imagine knowing it but it does not mean I really Know it.

Meredith said:

so being creative only mimics what you are, creation.

What about death, decay and the many horrors we are living through ?
Do you think they are also part of creation ? (I'll tell you what I think if you answer :P)

Meredith said:

the idea is while mimicking creation bringing new things to existence.

Isn't believing that you are actually the equal of "creation" itself ?

You may just add constant noise without really creating anything of value (in the most objective way).
As artists, should we just create things endlessly to preserve and feed our little ego or should strive to respect creation by not adding new useless thing to it ?

Meredith said:

being creative is a healthy way to learn about who you are, control your thoughts and channel your concepts to a completed "creation" and along the way you learn a little more about what your purpose is.

I agree with you in part.
The problem is that you may keep creating without learning anything about yourself, you may think you do but how would you know that you're not deluding yourself in the process ?

Quote 23 May 2008

mydeadpony

jrassik said:

well if all creative is all mimetic, that there's is only one original source of ideas? It had to start somewhere right? - and that every idea it just branching off of one original source?

I do think it's a pretty good question.
Where do ideas/ images and so on originate ?

If I remember correctly, the sufi Ibn al arabi said that every potential ideas of manifestations exist in the realm of God, even dreams but I might be incorrect in my comprehension of this.

I think there is no limit to imagination but the problem is that by living in a real physical world with few access to higher densities we cannot escape our reality although the combinations seem endless, there is a set of objective rule we cannot escape imho.

Moreover, we as human beings have an incredible tendencies to take our dreams for reality but that's another topic. :D

Quote 23 May 2008

aliencraft

Anyone can be creative. We all have ideas and interpretations on anything this world has to offer. Some can display it visually with paint and pen, others can express it in written form, others can verbally describe it.

I have been blessed to visually see it and to be able to write it. But I have a hard time to verbally describe it. So yes, anyone can be creative. We are all born equal. Some tap into our supposed talents early, while others learn it over time.

Going to art school may help you establish a foundation to start. It maybe also help get some of your creative juices flowing by showing you creativity through example, ie, other peoples work.

The ability to actually accomplish something creatively comes from you and how long you are willing to put into painting or drawing or writing. Pick up a pencil, open a magazine and try to draw something from there. Chances are it won't be Picaso, but it will be a start. Build on that foundation and over time it will start to materialize into something you can be happy with.

I say this from experience. I started with nothing. I thought I had no creativity what so ever. My art when I first started out was pathetic, not original and lacking. But overtime, as I became used to the tools I was provided with, things start to take shape.

In conclusion, going to art school will help build that foundation and then from there you can determine how much time and effort you want to put into being creative.

Remember, practice makes perfect, right?

Quote 23 May 2008

meredith

(i hope that i have all the quote tags in the right places if not i am sorry!)

mydeadpony said:

meredith said:
all of creation is mimicked down to the smallest particle.

Not to be an ass Meredith (:P), but it's quite unclear what you're trying to say although I think that you mean that the whole universe is contained within the smallest particle.

Ok let's assume it's true, how do you access it then ?
What's your way of getting knowledge of such things ?

I can imagine knowing it but it does not mean I really Know it.

because i know all! just kidding.

My energy tells me ... being a part of this whole life thing... both access & knowledge are acquired through observation using the senses that were given to us and our thoughts/perspectives. The best way to be intouch with your energy and hear is to try to maintain a bond between your mind and your body. Many of us think that escaping our minds is a solution, when infact it only adds to the destruction. In order to understand the spiritual and metaphysical you have to have a clear perception, or it will always be foggy and noisy.

I do think that what you said about the whole universe being contained within the smallest particle is true but that isn't what i meant here, exactly. that is another topic.

mydeadpony said:

Meredith said:
so being creative only mimics what you are, creation.

What about death, decay and the many horrors we are living through ?
Do you think they are also part of creation ? (I'll tell you what I think if you answer :P)

Yes. It is. Its all part of the cycle. The one thing all life as a whole has in common.
Its preperation for the next destination for the energy that keeps you alive, once you no longer exist as your "ego" self.
I do believe in the whole energy is neither created nor destroyed thing.

If not wouldnt all of this be without any real significance?

mydeadpony said:

Meredith said:
the idea is while mimicking creation bringing new things to existence.

Isn't believing that you are actually the equal of "creation" itself ?

You may just add constant noise without really creating anything of value (in the most objective way).
As artists, should we just create things endlessly to preserve and feed our little ego or should strive to respect creation by not adding new useless thing to it ?

I do not beleive in a single personified creator.
I believe everything as a whole is creation and the creator all in one.

I don't really think its possible to add useless things to the world. If its useless because it has already been added, then its technically not being "added". Or, if it is something you or i have never seen and we still find it useless, who knows who it might be useful to. I think everyone has to start somewhere, and i think it is very important to encourage people to respect creativity. Most definitely.

mydeadpony said:

Meredith said:
being creative is a healthy way to learn about who you are, control your thoughts and channel your concepts to a completed "creation" and along the way you learn a little more about what your purpose is.

I agree with you in part.
The problem is that you may keep creating without learning anything about yourself, you may think you do but how would you know that you're not deluding yourself in the process ?

Delusion is a fear i have, but i try not to focus on it. otherwise i will sit here all day and be saying "what if" which i have done before and i find myself going a bit despondent. But it makes me feel useless and who wants to feel like that?

Raphael, regardless of your daily path, i believe we are the creators of ourselves, so when we learn or discover, we are actually making ourselves who we are. Their is no preconceived who you are, though outside factors are ofcourse always an influence. I think your birth gives you the energy and the body and soul and you have the option of what you want to become. I think its more healthy to create yourself in a positive and clear way than expressing yourself in a disrespectful convoluted way. Which i hope i have done here!

But i am aware i could be all wrong and we could all just be doomed. I have considered that also. lol.

Quote 23 May 2008

jrassik

"Many of us think that escaping our minds is a solution, when infact it only adds to the destruction" -meredith

Destruction is an act of creation in itself. Attempting to escape my mind and my own thought is my favorite creative process. It's only way to get out of your own perspective. You have to break bonds to create new ones. Kinda like how manage my friends. ( That's a strange analogy, but it's what came to my head first.)

On a side note, I can't believe I actually got people to respond. Look at what I created!
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Quote 23 May 2008

meredith

jrassik said:

"Many of us think that escaping our minds is a solution, when infact it only adds to the destruction" -meredith

Destruction is an act of creation in itself. Attempting to escape my mind and my own thought is my favorite creative process. It's only way to get out of your own perspective. You have to break bonds to create new ones. Kinda like how manage my friends. ( That's a strange analogy, but it's what came to my head first.)

I have tried many ways of escape and truly their is no such thing. I just wind up right back in the same place.

Sweet thought, though.

Quote 23 May 2008

devian

*puts on his black beret and begins playing bongos*
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I don't control my emotions. I just make them digital.

Quote 23 May 2008

aliencraft

I always thought escape was a jar of CK jelly, some vintage porn and no one around...

...apparently I was wrong all this time!

Quote 23 May 2008

mydeadpony

[quote=meredith
Raphael, regardless of your daily path, i believe we are the creators of ourselves, so when we learn or discover, we are actually making ourselves who we are. Their is no preconceived who you are, though outside factors are ofcourse always an influence. [/quote]

Thank for your answers Meredith.
I think you'd be very very interested in reading "In search of the miraculous" by P.D. Ouspensky and "Secret history of the world" by Laura Knight-Jadczyk.

Quote 24 May 2008

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